Friday, August 03, 2007

Purim in the Middle of the Summer ?

Photo: Reuters

Missile-launcher aimed at Gaza!

Group from central Israel makes improvised projectile-launcher, lobs organic eggs, vegetables at Beit Hanoun, Gaza...

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If only they could have used rotten produce to avoid Baal Tashchis it'd have been perfect.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

PV=NRT pressure and volume combined to a specific temp, using household products, can erupt causing severe damage. Using simple gases elicited from nocious fumes of a carborater, rotten eggs and a cleaner, or nail polish remover and hydrogen peroxide, or even nitroglycerin derived from mere sugar explosives can be produced from the food supply. It is time Israel attacked back. If they were going to use food supply's, making them deadly would have made it perfect.

Brooklyn Habiru said...

"making them deadly would have made it perfect."

Too bad the State couldn't care less about its citizens and refuses to protect them... if they decided to protect themselves with actual weapons they'd be arrested like criminals.

Anonymous said...

One would think that household products used as weapons may serve as the perfect solution.. If constructed properly what may appear as a rotten egg or a bit of baking soda can do much harm, but upon being confronted, the claim to have not simply fired rotten food, cannot be proven against them in any way... this is strikingly similar to hungary during the second world war, when the mention of calling the police upon attack, would only be an invite for further abuse. It seems he third world war is approaching...

Brooklyn Habiru said...

"It seems he third world war is approaching..."

I certainly hope not. And while I am disinclined towards thinking in such fatalistic terms, it sadly may very well be the case.

Anonymous said...

disinclined? funny i thought you encouraged this way of thinking... It is better to be prepared for the worst(and from the way things are going that seems to be the case) then to lead a naive lifestlye wearing blinders and ignoring crucial evidence! We are in a state of war. Gog umagog comes in three steps, and according to my recent research all our rabbinical leaders seem to agree that the third is approaching. I believe the only thing we can do is return to our god offering loyal servitude and pray to be treated with rachamim. I think the time to stop pretenting fatalistic terms aren't necessary is now.

Anonymous said...

My only question is what will happen to this world of ours when it is all over, and especially dealing with the souls who shall perish- will they be given a second chance in the form of a gilgul? It states before shamah in our tfila that "i shall forgive all who have been harmed by me "bein gilgul haze ubein gilgul haba" does that not prove the existence of gilgul neshamot? And if that is the case, what will be in the time of the massaiah- will repentance still arrive in the form of a gilgul? ---do you have an answer or is this conversation useless?

Brooklyn Habiru said...

Yes, disinclined – I am all for awareness and preparedness, to the extreme. What I mean by “disinclined” is that unlike some whackos out there (such as particular denominations of Christianity, and Islam) I would not like to see us head in that direction, whereas they would like to nudge history in toward it. So on that note I hope and pray that all of the Rabbanim you refer to are wrong. As for turning to HaShem as the only source of true deliverance – with that I entirely concur. Many geo-political problems could be solved with immediacy if we were to simply obey His word.

On the topic of Gilgulim and the like, much has been written concerning this matter. I highly suggest HaRav Saadiah Gaon’s section of Emunos V’Deos “נגד אמונת הגלגול” and in reference to the quote in the prefacing statements in many Siddurim prior to Krias Shema Al HaMittah (which I am not even certain is Halachically required, assuming one has already said Shema during Maariv – [currently investigating]) my intuition leads me to believe that the reference to metempsychosis is an innovation of the Ari, or his followers. As for repentance, the RaMBaM codified the appropriate manner in which this is to be pursued: הלכות תשובה

Brooklyn Habiru said...

After investigating, it seems that according to the RaMBaM one need only say HaMapil and the first pasuk of Shema, or even some pesukim reffering to HaShem's attribute of Rachamim.

Hadas said...

After reading the "neged emunot hagilgul" you posted, i just thought you may find this interesting--- I never told you this, but when i was in Israel, i heard of a man who calls himself a "rabbi", (i do not know his name unfortunately but have heard of him through a distant relative who has gone to see him,) who apparently tells you what you were in your previous gilgul, and what you need to rectify as a result.He performs some kind of ritual, blesses you, looks into your name and your past and grants you this information about your soul.He is at large, to say the least.
In the time of the neviim (such as devorah haneviah) jews were able to approach neviim with the question of what their purpose in life was. This would be given to them through nevuah, and so they would go on their merry way, knowing what they need to fulfill in their lifetime. This person in Israel claims he has the same power and tells these individuals what their purpose is (again, based on their previous lives-what they were in the past gilgul)... you'd be suprised at the things he said to this woman who went to see him, maybe one day if you want i'll tell you, but the point is A GOOD NUMBER of religious ORTHODOX people BELIEVE in him and have gone to see him as well...
Shocking no? I wonder if he gets money for it...

Another thing dealing with gilgulim, something interesting i read once which proves a point-
In the Executioners song by Norman Mailer, Garry Gilmore who is sentenced to life in prison for murder begs for death row, stating that he is not afraid for he will come back and rectify his actions in another life. Nicole, his love, believes the same thing,and so permits herself to take horrid actions while holding on to the faith that they will both return, and be able to set things right the next time around. I'm mentioning this because I remember you said it's unhealthy to have the perspective that gilgulim are possible, considering they can lead to such thoughts as these.
And I just thought you might find that interesting, that in Garry's case this strong belief in reincarnation, allowed him to excuse himself for murder!
Murder! can you believe that??? To say that those beliefs are dangerous is an understatment...
However this leads me to wonder why the Ari wrote the infamous book in the first place? Was he not a gadol hador?- and also why are so many people in the orthodox community prone to thinking along these lines (if the rambam makes a clear cut case against it!)- where did these ideas come from?! Do they have any substantial hold???

Hadas said...

Btw that dowid guy is funny, with his comments...I was just being my usual inquisitive self..

Michael said...

I saw this in the paper. What a great protest!

Not only are they trying to draw attention to a problem, but they are also feeding the "poor, starving palestinians," despite Hamas's frequent attacks on border crossings.

Brooklyn Habiru said...

Hadas,

“In the time of the neviim (such as devorah haneviah) jews were able to approach neviim with the question of what their purpose in life was.”
I am curious what your source is for asserting this, is it just something you’ve heard or is it brought down somewhere?

“this strong belief in reincarnation, allowed him to excuse himself”
You’ve hit the nail on the head – this is precisely one of the very major concerns of such a philosophy. Moral responsibility becomes a meaningless and vacuous pursuit.

“However this leads me to wonder why the Ari wrote the infamous book in the first place?” The Ari did not actually write it (he wrote very few things at all) his student Rabbi Chaim Vital wrote it down based on his teacher’s views.


“Was he not a gadol hador?” I do not think outside of his community in Tzfas, and his secretive inner circle of students that he was much known in the larger Jewish world during his generation. Also, from what I can tell generally Gedolei HaDor are acknowledged as such based on their Halachic authority which he was not particularly known for.

“why are so many people in the orthodox community prone to thinking along these lines”
I think this is a problem in most religious communities in general – there is a general tendency and desire to want to be a part of something “mysterious”, in large part I believe that this a predisposition that has developed out the human incapacity to understand cause and effect.

“where did these ideas come from?”
Well presumably the Ari picked it up from the Zohar. Where did the author of the Zohar get it from? Who knows – there is the possibility of there having been cross pollination amongst mystically inclined scholars of different heritages.


“Do they have any substantial hold???”
Well in general the influence of the teachings of the Ari have been pretty pervasive in the Orthodox world. However there have been many groups that have resisted it, or played them down (Litvish - Misnagdish, Modern Orthodox, large segment of Yemenite Jewry etc). It is sad that many indigenous ancient communities threw away their old Nusachim in favor of the innovations of the Ari that were introduced to their communities.

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Michael,

Sadly the legitimacy of the State is quickly eroding as it abrogates the social contract it has with its citizenry. If the State consciously chooses not to provide defense and security then on what basis does it possess the right to govern?

Bar Kochba said...

I'm starting to fear the end of moderdn State of Israel. Hopefully, Hashem will send us a real leader soon.

Michael said...

If the State consciously chooses not to provide defense and security then on what basis does it possess the right to govern?

None, of course. Just another reason to get Olmert out.

I don't believe that we should ever assassinate a fellow Jew, but if anyone wants to pick Olmert up, and toss him bodily into the nearest dumpster, I'd be willing to volunteer to help...